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== Public mailing list ==
= <span id="Mailing_List"></span>Public mailing list =


'''''[mailto:flashprog@flashprog.org flashprog@flashprog.org]''''' — discuss, report, seek help
[[Flashprog]] related mails are welcome on the flashprog mailing list at
[mailto:flashprog@flashprog.org flashprog@flashprog.org]. This list is
used for all flashprog matters, like development discussions,
success/failure reports, and support requests.


== IRC ==
''Please do NOT send any BIOS images or F segment dumps to the list!''
E-mails with attachments bigger than ~200&nbsp;KiB will be rejected. If
you need to send pictures, please make sure they are compressed
appropriately.


'''''#flashprog''''' on ''libera.chat''
Please note that the list is moderated for non-subscribers and we
recommend to subscribe first. Either via the
[https://mail.sourcearcade.org/postorius/lists/flashprog.flashprog.org web interface]
or by sending an e-mail to
[mailto:flashprog-join@flashprog.org flashprog-join@flashprog.org].
 
== Subscription ==
 
* Visit https://mail.sourcearcade.org/postorius/lists/flashprog.flashprog.org
 
or
 
* send an e-mail to [mailto:flashprog-join@flashprog.org flashprog-join@flashprog.org].
 
== Archives ==
 
* https://mail.sourcearcade.org/hyperkitty/list/flashprog@flashprog.org/
 
== Moderation rules ==
 
If your mail is too big (the current limit is 256&nbsp;KiB) or if you're
not on the subscriber list, your mail will be held for moderation. If
your mail contains any BIOS images or F segment dumps (instead of links
which are fine), the mail will be rejected for legal reasons (we do not
have the right to distribute BIOS images).
 
[[Mailinglist/Moderation howto|Moderation howto]] for moderators.
 
 
= <span id="IRC"></span>IRC (real-time chat) =
 
Some of the flashprog developers and users hang out in the
[irc://irc.libera.chat/#flashprog '''#flashprog'''] channel on the
[https://libera.chat/ Libera.chat]
'''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat IRC]''' network.
If you don't have an IRC client, you can use the Libera.chat
'''[https://web.libera.chat/#flashprog webchat]'''.
 
Here you have the chance to talk to people being involved or interested
in this project. Most of the discussion is tech talk and user help.
 
Do note that IRC's nature has a significant effect on conversations.
People from all over the world can join this channel, with many
different cultures and timezones. Most people are in the
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Time '''CET''' timezone],
so the channel may be very quiet during [https://time.is/CET '''CET''' nighttime].
 
If you have a problem and would like to get help, don't ask for help.
Instead, just '''explain''' your problem right away, and make sure to
'''describe''' the situation as much as possible, so that other people
can understand you and provide meaningful answers. Otherwise, others
have to ask or guess the details of your problem, which is frustrating
for both parties.
 
If you receive no replies, please '''be patient'''. After all, silence
is better than getting replied with "[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/IDK IDK]".
Frequently, somebody knows the answer, but hasn't checked IRC yet. In
any case, please '''do not leave the channel while waiting for an
answer!''' Since IRC does not store messages, replying to somebody who
left the channel is '''impossible'''.
 
To have persistence on IRC, you can set up an
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat#Bouncer IRC bouncer]
like [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZNC ZNC], or use
[https://www.irccloud.com/ IRCCloud]. Please '''do not publish any
logs''' of this channel.
 
Most of the time, people use IRC on wider-than-tall screens. Because of
this, consider that pressing the return key is expensive. Instead of
sending lots of tiny messages with only about two words, prefer using
longer sentences, spaces and punctuation symbols. If reading and
understanding your messages is easy, replying to them is also easy.
 
Should you need to paste lots of text (more than three lines), please
use a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin paste service]. For
flashprog logs, feel free to use
'''[https://paste.flashprog.org/ paste.flashprog.org]'''.
Other good paste services are [http://ix.io/ ix.io],
[https://paste.rs/ paste.rs], [https://bpaste.net/ bpaste.net],
[https://gist.github.com/ gist.github.com] and
[https://dpaste.com/ dpaste.com].
 
Questions on [http://www.coreboot.org coreboot],
[http://www.openbios.info OpenBIOS], open-source firmware and related
topics are welcome in '''#coreboot''' on the same server.

Latest revision as of 17:46, 3 December 2023

Public mailing list

Flashprog related mails are welcome on the flashprog mailing list at flashprog@flashprog.org. This list is used for all flashprog matters, like development discussions, success/failure reports, and support requests.

Please do NOT send any BIOS images or F segment dumps to the list! E-mails with attachments bigger than ~200 KiB will be rejected. If you need to send pictures, please make sure they are compressed appropriately.

Please note that the list is moderated for non-subscribers and we recommend to subscribe first. Either via the web interface or by sending an e-mail to flashprog-join@flashprog.org.

Subscription

or

Archives

Moderation rules

If your mail is too big (the current limit is 256 KiB) or if you're not on the subscriber list, your mail will be held for moderation. If your mail contains any BIOS images or F segment dumps (instead of links which are fine), the mail will be rejected for legal reasons (we do not have the right to distribute BIOS images).

Moderation howto for moderators.


IRC (real-time chat)

Some of the flashprog developers and users hang out in the #flashprog channel on the Libera.chat IRC network. If you don't have an IRC client, you can use the Libera.chat webchat.

Here you have the chance to talk to people being involved or interested in this project. Most of the discussion is tech talk and user help.

Do note that IRC's nature has a significant effect on conversations. People from all over the world can join this channel, with many different cultures and timezones. Most people are in the CET timezone, so the channel may be very quiet during CET nighttime.

If you have a problem and would like to get help, don't ask for help. Instead, just explain your problem right away, and make sure to describe the situation as much as possible, so that other people can understand you and provide meaningful answers. Otherwise, others have to ask or guess the details of your problem, which is frustrating for both parties.

If you receive no replies, please be patient. After all, silence is better than getting replied with "IDK". Frequently, somebody knows the answer, but hasn't checked IRC yet. In any case, please do not leave the channel while waiting for an answer! Since IRC does not store messages, replying to somebody who left the channel is impossible.

To have persistence on IRC, you can set up an IRC bouncer like ZNC, or use IRCCloud. Please do not publish any logs of this channel.

Most of the time, people use IRC on wider-than-tall screens. Because of this, consider that pressing the return key is expensive. Instead of sending lots of tiny messages with only about two words, prefer using longer sentences, spaces and punctuation symbols. If reading and understanding your messages is easy, replying to them is also easy.

Should you need to paste lots of text (more than three lines), please use a paste service. For flashprog logs, feel free to use paste.flashprog.org. Other good paste services are ix.io, paste.rs, bpaste.net, gist.github.com and dpaste.com.

Questions on coreboot, OpenBIOS, open-source firmware and related topics are welcome in #coreboot on the same server.